How Certain Meds Affect the Mind

On this Episode we Listen to the update of Jordan Petersons health from Mykaila Peterson and how meds can affect a person then Joe Rogan and Trump.

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SPEAKER_02 0:09

Welcome to Faith Fiction and Folklore, or as we like to call it, the Try Up Podcast, where we try not to mess the podcast up. So, alright, what we're doing next is we got an update from Michaela Peterson about Jordan Peterson. So we wanted to they've something interesting happened during this update because for those who don't know, Jordan Peterson has been very sick and he's been sick for a long time. Everybody's been hoping he'd get well. It seems now that some time has gone on, they actually know what's wrong with him, and Michaela Peterson explains that in this video. So I thought we would react. I thought we would react to what she had to say and uh talk about SSRIs again. Because we have discussed this before. Yes, if for those who don't remember, uh, I would recommend this book and going back and watching our reaction to the interview if you don't want to read the book, but we actually watched uh Tucker Carlson before I got all mad at him. Uh we watched Tucker Carlson interview Laura Delano and talking about SSRIs and Unshrunk. So she goes into more detail about the damage SSRIs actually do to people. And Michaela Peterson is basically affirming that because apparently Jordan Peterson is having some residual issues because of the SSRIs he was on earlier in life. So let's take a look at this.

SPEAKER_07 1:47

Hey guys. This is a video update on dad's health, as well as a much longer portion of information about what he's suffering from, what a lot of people are suffering from, unfortunately, and what my experience with these issues was. These updates are not fun for me. They're really stressful. And I would have updated you guys sooner, but he's still been really sick and he got worse over the last few months. And I'm 25 weeks pregnant, and I wasn't able to record anything without weeping the whole time until this week, apparently. Uh, and it stresses out my whole family to talk about it online.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

And there's Calic says big harma. I agree.

SPEAKER_07 2:28

No point in adding stress to an already stressful situation. Except that because we're public, dad in particular, it's also stressful not talking about it because then rumors get started, and then that's all people wonder about. So here goes. Dad's been suffering from an old neurological injury that's more recently been causing acathesia. Akathesia is the worst thing I've ever seen anyone go through. That sounds dramatic, but it's true. We talked about it in 2020 and 2021 when he experienced it after Climazepam injured him. And I'll explain why it's an injury in a bit. I had a very brief experience with acathesia with symptoms that were extremely horrifying, but not as severe as his when I went through antidepressant withdrawal from Lexapro. That was just over 10 years ago. And that experience, like the withdrawal period that was really severe, lasted two and a half years for me where I was nearly disabled. This was kind of before I had a public thing going on. That's when I just had a blog. I've linked a bunch of papers below about everything I'm going to talk about so that people watching can get scientific background information about what this is, because it's not talked about nearly enough for how catastrophic it is. In my opinion, psych med injuries and psychmeds as a whole should be considered a national emergency, given one in six Americans, or possibly more, depending on the stat, is on one of these medications. And long-term use appears to cause mitochondrial dysfunction that manifests as a neurological injury. I'll get into more of that in a in a bit, too. Aithhesia is a side of the.

SPEAKER_02 4:47

On her ex. Yeah, on her ex. So let me pull up her on a YouTube. Yeah, and then I'm gonna try to see if I can pull up the research papers myself.

SPEAKER_04 4:57

Um I've been on like uh Legal by Roxon and uh I was on an antidepressant, I don't remember what it was called. But I went through a few of those issues myself when I got off of them. And yeah, the addiction. It's very hard to get over. Very, very hard to get over.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

Yeah, hang on here. Um I found one, I'm trying to get it up, but it won't. It's fighting me. Alright, here we go.

SPEAKER_04 5:36

Yeah, I have that problem.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Yeah, so here's uh one of the research papers. It was on her YouTube channel, by the way. So this is the abstract. This is not the whole thing. The I'll just read the abstract. That's kind of the thesis statement. So individuals living or working in moldy buildings, this is one of the topics she brings up, complain of a variety of health problems, including pain, fatigue, increased anxiety, depression, and cognitive uh def deficits. The ability of mold to cause such symptoms is controversial since no one, since no published research has examined the effects of controlled mold exposure mold exposure on brain function or proposed a plausible mechanism of action. Patient's symptoms following mold exposure are indistinguishable from those caused by innate immune inac activation following bacterial or viral exposure.

SPEAKER_04 6:27

We tested pause either. Yeah. That lines up with me. Because you know where I I I was living with mom and dad.

SPEAKER_02 6:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:40

When my brother inherited the house.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:44

He had a guy come over and do research, and they found black mold at all in where my room was to hold downstairs.

SPEAKER_02 6:56

Really?

SPEAKER_04 6:58

Yeah, there's black mold behind uh that huge picture in that living area.

SPEAKER_02 7:04

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 7:05

And I've been living in that most of my life.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

Wow. So you think that might have caused you some of your health problems?

SPEAKER_04 7:15

That it lines up.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

Yeah, it certainly does. Uh she's pretty adamant about that, about the mold stuff. So if you want to look at some of these papers in more detail, they're actually on her YouTube channel. We just I just went to X this time around, but uh yeah. All the links for these uh research papers are in her description. So let's go back to here and continue.

SPEAKER_07 7:50

Fact that's way more common than people know, usually caused by psychiatric medications, although other medications can sometimes cause it, and so can sudden cessation from those medications. That's a huge trigger.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Calic says mold is a serious thing, man. It's no joke. I I agree. I believe it. I think it was um Ted Nugent's wife was saying Ted Nugent or one of them in that family was having an issue as well with mold. That seems to be you know, I think she's the second person to have brought it up, but you know, I I think I remember Ted Nugent, somebody from Ted Nugent's family bringing it up. Kellex also says, I'm growing mushrooms right now, and I thought I was doing everything right, but they got infected by tri trichoderma. I'm not sure what that is. Trichoderma. I'm not sure what that is. I guess that's a type of mold. Let's look that up. I'm not sure. What is tri what is trichoderma? Okay, trichoderma is a genius of beneficial fast-growing fungi found in soil organic matter, widely used in agriculture, as a but biocontrol agent. Really? It protects plants by colonizing roots, attacking pathogenic. So it's it's a fungi designed to attack other fungi. That's what it huh. Well that sucks, man. So, like I wonder if people put that. I know. Shouldn't go that far. Maybe it's all conspiracy, man. It's all CIA. Just getting too conspiratorial for my own good, but anyway. So, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, he says, lol, right? So, all right, let's see here.

SPEAKER_07 9:51

So, like sudden, suddenly stopping one of the medications that can also cause it. And sometimes people with Parkinson's can experience it too. It is intolerable discomfort that makes people want to crawl out of their skin. It's a neurological injury, really. A lot of people don't survive it, and there's no quick fix. Although I'll go into how we've dealt with it before. Uh, without videotaping me sobbing, and it seems like a bunch of my sadness this week has turned into anger, which is actually at least more enjoyable for me. But uh, without posting a video of me sobbing, I don't know how to describe how bad it is in words, but I'm gonna take a stab at it. You guys could look up videos of other people suffering with it if you want to. It's catastrophic. Before I get into it, let me be super clear. Dad has not been on a psych medication since January 2020. This recent flare-up of neurological symptoms wasn't due to new medications. That's partly why we had no idea what was going on for about six months. We went to specialists, obviously, and it was misdiagnosed repeatedly, which is super common. Um, then he got pneumonia and sepsis, and obviously that's a whole thing to recover from, too, and dangerous, you know. This year's just been terrible. This recent flare-up that started last August was likely due to the stress of both of his parents, my grandparents dying last year.

SPEAKER_02 11:22

So she calls it a flare-up, and she says that this is basically something that happened as a result of pills he took, like what's this point, six years ago? So it's like some sort of long-term brain damage thing caused by the SSRI. Bad news, man. Bad news stuff. Or bad stuff.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

So that would explain why I've been having such a hard time the last few years.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Those pills are bad, man. I don't know how to say it. Like, they're they're no joke. Um, well, go on. I'm not sure how much of this we're gonna watch, but I I wanted to juxtap juxtapose this with Joe Rogan and Trump. So we'll give this another couple minutes and we'll move on to that.

SPEAKER_07 12:16

Moving countries, selling his home, and mold exposures, which was enough to trigger a recurrence of neurological symptoms. Like what he experienced in 2020, 2021. Something we obviously didn't think was possible after five and a half years away from these psych medications. But I've talked to psychiatrists who say they have patients that experience what experience this. This has been unbelievably hard on my family. Every day for the last year has been hell. I haven't been posting podcasts regularly online because until a few days ago, I've cried every single day. My brother is stressed out, my mom is stressed. I mean, it's impacting so many people. Um, and of course, my dad, you know. Um, mom's, thank goodness, such a strong person, and thank God for faith. If it weren't for my dad and our love for him and the strength of our family and how we've been through so many health problems, you almost adapt. No, you don't, because it's too awful, but like we have got good communication skills, and we're closer, if anything, now otherwise, this would have just crushed us. I've certainly been walking around in a state of panic for almost a year now. Uh, to make pregnancy hormones definitely don't help that. And then to make matters worse, I don't even want to mention this really, because I don't want to give it any attention, but some journalist online reached out to me trying to pin dad's symptoms on stem cell treatments, which is so dumb it's hard to fathom. Um, and I responded, which was stupid. You just should just never respond to a journalist, but I was like, hey, I really appreciate you looking into doctors, but like that's not what's going on with dad. I'm gonna talk about what's going on with dad. Um, but it just isn't associated with stem cells. And she ignored me.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 14:13

Uh I gotta take a break for a second, I'll be right back.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

All right. Well, uh while he's taking a break, I will make this comment. I do think it's kind of interesting. Like, I don't know a whole lot about stem cells myself, but I do find it interesting that they are willing to blame that instead of blame the SSRIs because Peterson has been very public about he's been very public about his struggles with those pills and how he believes they caused a lot of problems. So I do find it interesting that despite the fact that he has been public, he has uh the journalist wasn't asking about that. He's been asking about he's asking about stem cells or just some unrelated thing. So just food for thought. But anyway, so if you want to watch the rest of this, the same video is basically on YouTube. Let me pull it up because I will probably end up looking at some of these research papers if we run out of time. So let me pull that up really quick. Got a lot more tabs open than usual tonight. So, yes, let me give you the title. So this is a Jordan Peterson Health Update, April 2026. Um, just released five hours ago. Um, the title on the video is yeah, April 26th, JBP update and psychmed injury discussion. And if you're looking for the papers she cites in that video, they're all down here in the description. We clicked on the yeah, the one that's marked number one. So, yeah, this uh my PMC and CBI link right down there. So, anyway, we might look at that later, but for the present, I just wanted to make uh that point about SSRIs, and then something else interested, because we've talked about, you know, big harma, as uh Calix has said, uh, quite a bit in the past, and I just thought that it was really sad that Peterson was going through this, and at the same time that Jordan Peterson is going through this, you have this happening today as well. Uh Joe Rogan and Donald Trump teaming up for something kind of unexpected. So we'll play this click or this clip really quick. I want to tell everybody how this happened. I sent President Trump some information. Before we do that, let me read the caption up here. Wow, Joe Rogan reveals President Trump immediately offered him FDA approval for a psychedelic treatment in a text chain because the data was so convincing and stunning. I want to tell everybody how this happened. I sent President some information. With one dose of Ibogain, more than 80% of people are free of that addiction. With two doses, it's more than 90%. I sent him that information. The text message came back, sounds great. Do you want FDA approval? Let's do it. It was literally that quick. For 56 years, we went lived under those terrible conditions. We're free of that now. Um, we're free. Yeah, okay. So that was his quote. I don't like the way he's framing this. Um yeah, yeah, he's framing this in a way I don't really like. Uh Rogan's point behind saying this, in my opinion, was Trump was open-minded and available. I th he wasn't like saying I gave him this special information or whatever. That's not Rogan's point. Rogan is basically saying Trump put him Trump listened to him and he was open-minded, and he was impressed with that. That's the vibe that I got from the video, but I'll let you guys watch and you can tell me what you think.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

I want to tell everybody how this happened. I sent President Trump some information. Uh, we have a gigantic opiate prop in this country, obviously. Uh, in 2024, more than 80,000 people died of overdoses.

SPEAKER_02 18:16

Well, good sir, we're watching Joe Rogan's comments about Trump and this executive order they signed. So, just to fill you in.

SPEAKER_05 18:24

Yeah. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

It's a horrible number. And there's more than five million people that are addicted to opiates right now in this country. With one dose of ibogaine, more than 80% of people are free of that addiction. With two doses, it's more than 90%. I sent him that information. The text message came back sounds great. Do you want FDA approval? Let's do it. Literally that quick. Um, these drugs are illegal not because they're harmful, they're illegal because of the 1970 Controlled Substances Act that was passed by the Richard Nixon administration. They did it to target the civil rights movement and the anti-war movement. It's not because these drugs harm people. And for 56 years, we've lived under those terrible conditions. We're free of that now. We're free of that now. Thanks to all these people that you see next to me, and thanks to President Trump.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Now, Trump had a response that was actually a little shorter than I thought it was supposed to be. So let's see here.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

Story of my life.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah, so just uh just this is my bit. I had this joke and I forgot it, so I've already ruined it, but that's okay. So, why in the world would they push SSRIs and ban psychedelics if psychedelics aren't as harmful? That's my favorite quote.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

I want that money.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

I love that quote. It's a lame joke, but I love that quote. So there's that. Um, let's see, Benny Johnson had something on it too. He actually showed the video. Cody Cody Bosefis. Man, that's a big deal. I agree. It is. It's a huge deal. So let's see if we can find out a little bit more about it here. I didn't pull it up, nor did I. Let's go to Benny Johnson really quick, if I can just be a little faster.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

What did you just say? What? The legend killer from the nationwide arena in Columbus?

SPEAKER_02 20:51

An amazing guy, and he wrote so let's pick it up of what Trump how Trump was.

SPEAKER_06 20:58

From Joe Rogan saying that it was Trump. He just texted Trump illustration.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

He's a little bit more liberal than it's okay. Now you have a lot of friends that are liberal, but Joe is uh an amazing guy, and he he wrote, made a little note about this, and I had a check down. I didn't just do it. I had a check down. I went to Bobby and Oz. I went to some of the people that work for you, real pros, and everybody came back with the same answer. You know, normally they'll come back because this happens a lot. Have a couple of them like that where they're not sure. It's like, you know, it goes two ways. This thing, everybody thought it was incredible.

SPEAKER_06 21:35

And so I told what is this thing? Let's go ahead and look. Okay. Sign executive order. Ibergain is one of the new uh psychedelic drugs. This is what it looks like. It's like a root in Africa. That's what it looks like. And it's for treating opioid abuse. Uh, President Trump signing it. It's a root out of uh shrub. Route native to Central Africa is ibergain. Uh, it is again meant to help with post-traumatic stress disorder and brain injuries. Uh it's a all right.

SPEAKER_02 22:12

Let's look it up a little for ourselves a little bit. Uh before we do that, um Cody says, man, that's a big deal. And then he adds, I wish it would have been legal when I had opio opioid issues. LOL. Yeah, I think there's a lot of people wishing it had been legal sooner. So what's he? What do you call? Ibaga Ibogene, Ibogaine? Here we go, yeah. Ibogaine. Out of Africa out of Africa. Let's see, do we have any images? Yeah, so this is the picture Benny Johnson was pulling up. Hang on a minute. So I think it's that one there. Yeah, so that was the picture he pulled right here. Let's actually find something out about it. Okay, so it's a psychoactive alkaloid derived from the African Tabernath Ibo iboga shrub, used traditionally for spiritual purposes and currently under investigation for treating addiction and traumatic brain injury. So research indicates it can significantly reduce opioid withdrawal and cravings as well as alleviate PTSD, which is what he already read, uh induces a long-lasting four to eight hour visionary stage, often described as a waking dream. So it basically gets you too high to care about the other thing that you were suffering from, I guess. Which, followed by a long introspective phase, unlike many psychedelics, it is generally not considered recreational, with users often describing the experience as harrowing or intensely psychological. So I don't know if I would consider that a great idea. Let's look at the Stanford Medicine article really quick. Just to kind of see here. So, psychoactive drug effectively treats traumatic brain injury in special ops military vets. For military veterans, many of the deepest wounds of war are invisible. Traumatic brain injuries resulting from head trauma or blast explosions are a leading cause of post-traumatic stress disorder, anxiety, depression, and suicide among veterans. Few treatments have been effective at diminishing the long-term effects of TBI, leaving many veterans feeling hopeless. Now, Stanford medicine researchers have discovered that the plant-based psychoactive drug Ibogaine, which up which come when combined with magnesium, now that's interesting, to protect the heart, safely and effectively reduces PTSD anxiety and depression and improves functioning in veterans with TBI. In a study published July 24, 2025, in Nature, Mental Health, Nolan Williams, an associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences, and his team analyzed electro electromencephy and MRI scans collected from a cohort of 30 veterans to uncover the neural mechanisms underlying the cognitive improvements. They found, for example, that veterans who improved in executive function after Ibogaine treatment tended to show an increase in a type of brainwave known as theta rhythms. They also found that veterans with lowered PTSD symptoms after treatments tended to show a reduction in complexity of brain activity in the cortex. A reduction in complexity of brain activity in the cortex. The researchers speculate that stronger theta rhythms may encourage neuroplasticity and cognitive flexibility, while less complex cortical activity may lower the heightened stress response seen in PTSD. Brain activity patterns before treatment could also be used to identify patients who would benefit most from ibogaine therapy. Now, what is my point in bringing this up? My thing is this, based on my own, I guess you would say, conservative-ish background, I would the old me from several years ago would have great misgivings about using this sort of thing. But is this really any more dangerous than using SSRIs? Obviously not. Yeah, obviously not. Like you're still I mean, this might burn you out and make you slow, but I mean you Jordan Peterson apparently can't even function now because of the things. And so what are these what are these FDA guys even basing their you know, studies on? Like, why are we defaulting to them to tell us what drugs basically are and aren't okay? It seems like everything has a risk, and we're seeing that now.

SPEAKER_04 27:12

Well that uh that's the thing about Western medicine is I I believe how they do it is they they get like two thousand people that have kind of the same issue. And then they give half of them certain like antidotes, if you will.

SPEAKER_02 27:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:38

And then and then they do the other half with uh what's it called? A placebo, a fake one?

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Yeah, placebo effects.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

One that doesn't doesn't have the medication in it. And then you see what happens.

SPEAKER_05 27:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

So if somebody dies from their medication. Oh, well it's one person died. So we have to write like on their commercials. Yeah, that's why the symptoms on ads and commercials are so far longer.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

You talking about like uh all the potential things that could happen to you, the symptoms include death, symptoms may bloody eye sockets, spouting ears.

SPEAKER_04 28:30

Yeah, that part takes longer than the original like showing of the medication.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

And it all goes really fast, so you can't hear it, right?

SPEAKER_04 28:41

So everyone in the background sounds, you know, looks all happy and go lucky, but they don't show the suffering of what's going on behind the scenes.

SPEAKER_02 28:55

Right, right. So Calyx says, right, Cody, I'm gonna try to make a D D I Y laminar, haha. And then Cody responds, good deal. Vent hoods are a good idea too, if it's possible. So anyway, so that's that. I just wanted to point out like the absolute insanity of it. Like, at the same day that we're learning that Peterson's still suffering from those SSRIs, they approve a psychedelic. Maybe the institutions aren't as trustworthy as we suppose. That's my whole point. It's all chaos. So, all right.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

It's a CIA.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

It's a CIA. Well, but just makes you feel better. There's always a CIA. Always a CIA. Just for my own sanity um or my own amusement, because I am genuinely interested in this, and I kind of want to hear more about this. I'm going to read one ab one more abstract about the mold subject, and then we're gonna wrap this up. Because I've made my point. My point was it's darkly ironic, and I think it's a teachable moment that at this on the same day that Peterson, we learned that Peterson's still suffering from that medication he got off six years ago. Psychedelics are improved. These people don't know anything, and they just go, ha ha ha, oops. You know. That was my point. Trevor, do you have anything to add to that?

SPEAKER_04 30:31

I I do actually. I've been listening to uh a doctor. Uh his channel is uh Dr. K. And it's called gaming with Dr. K. He is a gamer, but he's more of a doctor. And he focuses on gamers. And he started in America, but then he switched over to uh like uh he went to like the Middle East to learn Eastern medicine and he talks about how different things are and he he decided to be like he got went through and got his doctor's stuff and then he's like you know what I'm saying you don't need to be a coach. I'm just gonna coach people so while he doesn't practice um mental health stuff practicing uh what's it called? Uh helps people mentally uh either a psychologist or psychiatrist.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Uh I was psychiatrist, okay.

SPEAKER_04 32:02

Yeah. Um on his YouTube channel he just he just says coaching. Uh he doesn't claim doctor or stuff on his YouTube channel because he doesn't want to lead anybody astray. He just talked about the differences of Eastern and Western medicine. And then he does try and help people. It's amazing how much I'm just from listening to him. He's like, uh it's uh by Dr. K. Trying to remember his name. Uh see if I can do it. Dr.

SPEAKER_02 32:56

K, huh? Alright, well yeah, pull up his channel and then send me a link and I'll show I'll show the audience who it is.

SPEAKER_03 33:01

Mr. Cody. What's up, dude? I decided to just get on without a headphone.

SPEAKER_02 33:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 33:08

Is my audio okay?

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Yeah, you're good so far.

SPEAKER_03 33:11

No echoes or anything.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Yeah, no echoes or anything. You're alright. So, what is up, my good sir? Or do you have anything to add to this conversation about how the the the irony? I was just wanted to focus on the irony. The fact that Peterson, we find out he's still struggling with the SSRIs, and then on the same day they're legalizing the psychedelic.

SPEAKER_03 33:33

What do you mean struggling with SSRIs? They're not addictive.

SPEAKER_02 33:36

Well, he still has brain, he has brain damage. Like he's she uh Michaela Peterson goes on to explain it later in the video, but he's basically going through like physical pain because he hasn't got his brain is drunk, that's what those SSRIs do. That might be it. That might be it. I don't know. I just know that he's still like having physical symptoms, he can't really move around, he's very sick because of a pill of pills he hasn't taken for six years. Yeah. So he's got like this extreme brain damage, and yet these people will sit there and say, Well, you can't take a psychedelic. That's really bad for you. That'll really hurt you. I'm like, Well, you've got a guy who's basically bedridden.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

Just do it if you want to.

SPEAKER_02 34:26

I'm just I'm just marinating in the irony. I'm like, well, how much worse can it get? You're bedridden after you haven't taken something for six years. Meth doesn't even do that.

SPEAKER_03 34:34

I I'm kind of surprised that Peterson's never done psychedelics.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

Well, he said I'm assuming he hasn't, but either way, he says he hasn't taken anything, you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:46

I don't think Ibogain would be good for him.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

I would I'm not sure. From what I hear, Ibogain. From what I hear, Ibogain is like uh it's like specifically for like heroin addicts and pill pillheads.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Yeah, it's like heavy stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:02

Yeah, we're like it's a really rough trip. It's like very introspective, like it will mess you up, but you'll always remember it and you you won't go back.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

What kind of messing up? Like existential crisis mess you up, or like melting eyeballs in front of your eyes mess you up.

SPEAKER_03 35:21

So the story that I heard, I I'm not gonna remember it correctly, and I'm a terrible storyteller, you know this. Um this dude, like he he went to sleep, he woke up, he thought the trip was over. So he woke up, got on a plane. It was like it was like two days of an experience that he thought was happening, like he thought he was living his life, and then like I don't I don't remember if he died or what, but then he woke up and he was like, Oh shit like right, so it's like it'll it'll you'll never forget it kind of thing. That's crazy, but it's like excruciating.

SPEAKER_02 36:08

Well, I would imagine it has to be pretty intense, but again, I don't know if it could be worse than SSRIs. That's kind of my point. The institution's drugs I mean it turns out.

SPEAKER_03 36:18

I don't think it hurts you at all. I don't think that looks better. I don't think it hurts you.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Well, what was really interesting though is that in the article that we read, they mixed it with magnesium, and that seemed to make it safer. I don't know why that is.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

That's just keep you hydrated, or I mean, most people are magnesium deficient anyway. Yeah, so it's probably just good for your nervous system because it's a it's a tax on your nervous system.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Yeah. Calic says Hamilton Pharmacopia. LOL.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Yes, yes, pharmacopia is awesome.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

So, yeah. So just to humor myself, this was me being self-indulgent. I apologize. I wanted to read an abstract about this mole thing. Mold, so mold and mitotoxin exposure and brain disorders. So we'll read this abstract. The full article is found on a link in Michaela Peterson's description for her update for Jordan Peterson. We won't read the whole thing, just the abstract, and then we'll move on. So, gene environmental interaction is an emerging hypothesis to explain the increased incidence of neurological disorders. In this context, the health and clinical effects of exposure to air pollution have received increasing attention. One of these pollutants is the growth of fungi and molds in the form of multicellular filaments known as hyphae. Hyphae. Fungi and molds not only grow in outdoor environments, but they also thrive indoors with excessive moisture producing mycotoxins. Mold enters the body through the nose via the olfactory neurons, which directly communicate with the brain. Mytotoxins induce toxiological effects similar to those associated with brain disorders, such as oxidative stress and inflammation. One mold species can produce several different mic mycotoxins, and one mycotoxin can be produced by several different molds. Even a small amount of mold growth in the air condition, even a small amount of mold growth in the air conditioners and their ducts or the panels inside the buildings, and even the cars cause the occupants to be chronically exposed to and constantly inhaling spores and mycotoxins, which cause illness. In this review, we focused on mold and mycotoxin exposure and brain disorders.

SPEAKER_03 38:47

Wild, huh? That sounds it's almost like it's almost like alien was right in your face the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

I know. Yeah, you're right. You're right. The truth is always right in front of us.

SPEAKER_03 39:01

Indeed.

SPEAKER_02 39:02

Okay. You guys have any final thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 39:06

No. The truth will set you free.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

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