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Are these Pastors/Preachers for Real Scared of Aliens?

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On this Episode we talk about the Preachers who said they got insight About the Aliens.

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SPEAKER_04

Well, we got that stupid UFO thing. Oh. Should we just take the camera outside and look around? Yeah, sure, why not? Find our well, we go on the floor. Find our three videos that are already filled with UFOs. Yeah. Go find our own new. Uh guys, aliens are fake. I'm just telling you. Well, this this episode of it was, because I guess. Yeah, so far they all have been. Um so this week they I guess it was the Daily Caller. Like I saw Matt Walsh reacting to an article by the Daily Caller anyway. Who's the Daily Caller? It's just a newspaper. It's like a rag thing. Like, are they left leaning, right leaning, mid-leaning? I think they're left. I think they're left. I'm not sure, but I think they're left. Anyway. Um so they were saying that the government had gathered some preachers together, and basically it was like, oh, you better prepare your people because some big changes are coming. We get you know the aliens are coming, guys. And uh just like a like a poetry stuff?

SPEAKER_03

Like, who are the preachers? They're just like nobody. They're charismatic.

SPEAKER_04

Jesse Jackson and Well, that was interesting. It seems like I believe they were charismatics. Wrestling KD referenced a few of them, but I think it was those people in the charismatic circle do. And that's the bunch that's kind of been around Trump's orbit. What's her name? Is it Paula White? I think is supposed to be like the closest to Trump or whatever. I don't know. I anyway. When I listened to Ruth Song, I I don't remember him talking like any specific names. Yeah, well, there are two or three charismatic people that said they were pulled into it, and it was a it was a big hubble baloo or whatever, and you know, Friday rolls around, the story changes throughout the week, and as Friday rolls around, we get pictures, and it's all super fake. Like, honestly, the stuff that I recorded is more convincing than the crap that the government put out. You know, it's literally heck, there was one guy. I I wish, oh, I wish we had Twitter tonight, but there was one guy, I have the I have it saved on my feed, but he um he literally recorded the exact same lights as I've been recording, only it was like in Colorado. The ones that are going up at a 45 and fading in and out of view. He recorded the exact same freaking thing.

SPEAKER_05

It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. And so it's like, we don't know what these are, we don't know if the drawings, we don't, you know. Same same conversation we had. Identical conversation we had. So we were ahead of our time. Yeah, basically. And we got three videos on that YouTube channel. Four you can look up. They used our footage without our our knowing. They may have, who knows? I think he got more of them at one time than I did, though. Like, at most, I got two, maybe three at the same time. I've seen like eight of them at the same time, but I only caught like two or three. He had like four to six or something like that, all going at the same time. But it's that same motion, the fading in, going up into 45 and fading out thing. Yeah. You know, they look like basically low-flying stars beyond that. Weird stuff. I need to get a uh some night vision goggles. We can see a lot of stuff with night vision goggles. Yeah. Well, what's really frustrating is well not frustrating, but I guess the reason I wanted to bring it up is because they were sitting there going, oh, this this stuff's gonna scare your people. There's gonna be a major falling away, we're gonna have to change the Bible. Yeah. Which how we're changing the Bible? Well, because if they're like, they're like, oh, the the we weren't created by still recording. How are you?

SPEAKER_00

What are you guys doing? We're recording. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04

Uh you see it?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

We're talking about anyway.

SPEAKER_04

We're talking about aliens and basically them saying that you know, oh aliens exist, you know, it's gonna cause like a great falling away of the city.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean if there's like these aliens that are like, oh, well, we we're the ones who created you, you know.

SPEAKER_04

It's like, oh, we have to rewrite the Bible now. Well, I think they believe that um Christians believe that humans are basically the only created beings or whatever, and the only like spiritual beings. Which a lot of Christians, I think, think that way, but a lot of them don't. You know, I never had an issue with the aliens growing up or whatever. I never thought, like, if aliens were real, I don't see how God can be real. I never looked at it that way. I kind of expected it. I'm like, well, it's God He creates. I I don't know why He would stop, you know. So it's like he created the multiverse. So that's not the multiverse is just a way to get around God.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's you know, it's philosophically opposite of God. He put that idea into the what's the guy that made the comic book Marvel?

SPEAKER_04

Stan Stanley. Stanley, he gave it I don't I don't think Stanley got the idea. I think it was uh postulation by some desperate scientist. Oh yeah, because it's like when the big bang, of course I'm going off memory, I don't remember exactly how this went down, but if my memory is correct, they come up with the Big Bang, and everybody's like, oh crap, Big Bang sounds a lot like in the beginning. We need to do something about this. And one of their attempts to get around, because you know, before everybody thought that the universe was stagnant, like it was it was eternal. And that was one of the reasons they were able to justify this millions of years stuff. Um, but once you got the Big Bang, I mean you still have the long age problem, I guess, but that showed that the universe wasn't eternal. That meant there was a limit, that meant it had to have a beginning, which meant somebody had to create it, you know? And so their solution was what if there's a lot of universes and we're just in the one that needed to be made? Like that that would fix it. And so that was that was the workaround. So, yeah. Um, I wanted to bring this whole situation up because the the when the footage comes out, it's incredibly disappointing. I mentioned to you guys earlier that there was a uh one of the footage, it they were trying to sell it like it was Ezekiel's wheel, you know, but it was really just a flare shot in infrared. You know, you could see the parachute in the background and the smoke hovering, and it was like obviously a flare. For those that don't know, what is the Ezekiel's Yeah, you're fine? Yeah. You bought me some earlier. Oh, they're in the office. For those that don't know what is exactly Ezekiel's wheel, what is that? Oh, it's uh basically Ezekiel had a vision of God, or maybe it was a realistic encounter of God, I'm not sure which, but there was an angel that um looked basically like a wheel within a wheel, and there's been a bunch of depictions of that wheel, and they say they claim it's a flying saucer, they claim it's an alien, they claim it's a bunch of different things, but it's I don't remember the particulars about what it represents, but it's it's regarding Israel, and it's part of like a I guess you'd say like a prophetic vision. So, but it's not it's not tied to aliens. They always make that claim, but is that the same one with like eyeballs all over everything? Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, and it's alive, though. That's the thing, is it's a living being, so it's not just a ship. Do you imagine that seeing that in your dream? Something terrifying. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think that story is a is a description of the skyclog, for lack of a better word. Like the the cycles of time.

SPEAKER_03

Like maybe progress rapidly.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, it could be. I have no idea what it means. I just don't. It's just not an alien flying saucer. You know?

SPEAKER_03

If it's like if it's a a think about it, if it's like a cycle, okay, he has a dream and it's a cycle, a circle. Yeah. And it's covered in eyes. Like, it's like maybe what he's describing is he's seeing a progression of time and a cycle of time happen. Yeah. I don't know. I understand. I just I I don't know. I've seen all the depictions of the the wheels and the eyes and the wings, and I'm this is stupid. I just think it's silly.

SPEAKER_04

It's silly. Yeah. No, I guess not what angels look like. Well, I hear you. I hear you. I don't know. I just wanted to I wanted to bring it up because I was like, alright, let's just say hypothetically if aliens exist. Would that affect your belief in God? It doesn't really affect mine, but I thought since you don't have it would it would definitely hurt my belief in God. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I think we're special beings. We're created in the image of God. I don't think it's out of here. I think anything that's in here is either us or demons. I don't think there's anything else here.

SPEAKER_04

I just don't think it matters. I'm like, look, I think special means having a specific task, a specific role in history. You you know, God makes you for a specific position and purpose. You know, so you're still special because he's got something for you to do, but I don't think special requires only. I don't I guess I don't requ believe that kind of claim.

SPEAKER_05

So special requires.

SPEAKER_04

Like we don't have to be the only sentient being created in the image of God to be special.

SPEAKER_02

Well, no. I just don't feel like we can get out of here. So I just don't don't buy anything. Like when you say get out of here, like get off earth. Wait, what? When you say get out of here, you don't think we can get out of here. Yeah, it would be when you get a rocket ship and fly out. Oh I don't think that's real. Yeah, see, for me personally, if if aliens do come out as a real thing, that would actually strengthen my view.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. A little bit. I'm kind of like in the same mindset because it's like more creation means more requires more explanation, I guess. So it's it would seem like God would be required if there were more alien beings out there or whatnot. So I yeah, I wouldn't consider it, which is you know, I yeah, I they call it human-centralism or whatever, but I don't know. I just feel like yeah, we don't need to be the only thing to be special, whatever, human-centric or whatnot. So so why but okay, why would aliens destroy your faith in God though? Like, or weaken your faith in God? Like, what is the connection for you between like aliens existing and the validity of God's existence, let's say? Like why why why would that disturb your faith in God?

SPEAKER_02

I guess because I think I know it all.

SPEAKER_04

Well, yeah, but you don't think you're God, so so I would be surprised if you're ignorant.

SPEAKER_02

Like I just I like I the concept of space travel is not real to me. So if that would unhinge everything that I stand on.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, so it'd be like your view of the world is so shattered, you'd be completely unsure about your own like perceptions? Yes. Yes, I would completely restart everything.

SPEAKER_03

I would I would go back to first grade math, um, relearn English, and I just I might just start with Spanish.

SPEAKER_04

You have a full-blown existential crisis, huh? Yeah. Oh wow. Huh. You think a lot of people are like that? You think that's like the position of a lot of people?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, but I think most people believe the opposite of what I believe.

SPEAKER_04

Oh. It's like you all are having the crisis, not me.

unknown

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

What do you think, Terry? What do you think uh Christians believe mostly? Like, you think that they are gonna have like their worldview shattered because of something like what Cody's going through, this idea of like, well, if they're real, I don't know nothing. Yeah. You think that's what a lot of people would do? Oh yeah. Uh we were listening to Howard Pittman. I think that showed him to Howard Pittman. He was a guy, he an elderly gentleman, he he had an NDE that you've taken heaven, and what he saw was like he gave a percentage of how many people he saw getting into heaven, and he said it was like two percent. And he he was thinking that there was something going to happen.

SPEAKER_02

He wasn't sure what it was, where the Christians would just be like, like something would shatter that they didn't specify what, because he didn't know, but that's what was shown to him in his NDE.

SPEAKER_04

He was planning to see the grape falling away type thing. Yeah, and there was a lot of people that were not getting in because they didn't believe anymore.

SPEAKER_02

Because something had shattered their faith.

SPEAKER_04

You think it'd be aliens, huh? Or it could be aliens, huh? Could be aliens, AI, mix of everything. Dude, it'd be really embarrassing if AI is what shatters people's faith. Dude, there are some people that believe a lot of AI is really real. It's so stupid. It doesn't accomplish anything. Like I can't. Yeah, I was calling Best Buy this morning and trying to figure out if they had lapel mites for this podcast tonight. And it was worse than the regular automated line. It was like, I need the SKU number. I don't need the SKU number. You need to go to our store. You know, I can help you.

SPEAKER_00

It was like completely self-contradictory.

SPEAKER_04

It's like this thing's an idiot. Next time it's called the Geek Squad. The Geek Squad, yeah. That's probably better. Because they're the Geek Squad is in Best Squad. Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I could have done that.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I should have invested in a laptop because apparently that's the only way to get a wide shot. So without the phone flip inside of it. Well, we got a wide shot, we're just sideways. Yeah, we're just sideways, so yeah. I'm sure that's like Phil Harvey's.

SPEAKER_02

That would be a great podcast.

SPEAKER_04

The sideways. The sideways. Are you a podcast? You gotta watch the sideways by the wayside. By the wayside. Anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess since we don't have computers, I mean I don't know what to do. What to do? Well, I'm just trying to get to 30 minutes. I wanted to pose that question though, because I just I'm not sure how people are gonna respond. I know for myself, I'm like, God is still gonna be real, whether they're aliens or not. But I guess it's something that I don't know, fundamentally, I just assume I'm an idiot. So it's like if aliens are, you know, real, okay. If they're not real, okay. So I don't really know anything anyway. So do you think we should put uh cones on our heads? No. I I would rather die. So you you can just you can just kill them, that's okay.

SPEAKER_02

I mean we could we could do some birds and just like coat the inside of our hats with tinfoil everything. There we go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Probably help a lot. Yeah, there we go. Definitely keep the five G's out. You want you for the five G's, yeah. So no, I don't know. I'm I don't think um yeah, I am worried about it. I don't think it's gonna affect my faith, but I I don't know. I also don't know how Christians are gonna react. I know a lot of Christians and Twitter have been basically like, it don't matter. It don't matter either way, you know. But of course this thing was so lackluster, they were like, oh yeah, that I got I gotta walk away from my church, guys. All that fuzzy alien footage. That just that was what I needed to walk away from God. Oh my goodness. So Twitter was fun today.

SPEAKER_02

Um well there there is a big portion of people that just don't follow any control. Yeah, what?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yes, we can. Thank you. Thank you. We appreciate it. So um the Calix to get on here.

SPEAKER_02

That's it. Oh, that's who it is. Call it. Oh, Callie? Calic, Calyp.

SPEAKER_04

Hey Calix!

SPEAKER_02

Calix, my back. Good to see you, man.

unknown

You're cool.

SPEAKER_02

My wife's name is Callie, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Good to see you, Calix. Yeah, we're we're kind of having uh an unorthodox night tonight. We were having a family reunion and almost got it set up right. Almost, and then it all fell apart right at the 11th hour.

SPEAKER_03

I haven't fixed my laptop yet, so I should have brought mine and didn't.

SPEAKER_04

So we tried to do it with our phones, and this is what we got. Yeah, we were just gonna do Facebook live stream, but apparently you can only do the little skinny shot, and you have to turn your phone to the side to get the whole thing. It's just ridiculous. Yeah. It's okay. I will edit these and it'll just be a regular wide shot, and we'll see how that plays. So cool. I guess as far as the aliens, uh, call me Thomas, but I'm gonna have to stick my hand in one side first. That might be it's like blowhole. Just I'd hesitate, all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

So well, I'll just shoot it and see if that there you go.

SPEAKER_04

If it doesn't vanish after you shoot it with buckshot, then you know it was real. So let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Don't we have anything else to talk about though? Oh, we can keep running with this. Let's see. We got uh yeah, the alien thing. We're asking whether or not, you know, it'll make the church actually fall away. Uh they also had the um congressional hearing, which I didn't see, but if it's been anything like the other one, remember we did like three episodes where we just reacted to that stupid thing. Or I did. I was alone. Yeah. And I sat there for four hours and people talked to me because they pitied me. I think bad intro was in that one going, hey buddy, you okay? Because it was just like obvious that even if the government had you know given them some like information, it was like a lie, you know. They're like they stuck those guys down in the brig and fed them a bunch of crap so they could go tell Congress a bunch of crap. Like it was part of like the whole cocooning the Congress operation where they're just throwing up full nonsense and just kicking up dirt, you know? And um I suspect it was the same thing here. You know? That's just me.

SPEAKER_02

All the gas price stuff.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, what that's the other thing I was gonna bring up. This has nothing to do with Iran! Nothing at all.

SPEAKER_03

It happened in set in the 70s too, was the last time this happened when the oil gas prices shot up super high. But we were actually importing or exporting a ton of oil, like we're making a ton of oil, yeah. Uh our reserves are full, all that shit, but we're it's still expensive.

SPEAKER_02

And it's a shortage, right? It's fake. They did it in the 70s too. Yeah. You find work. Man, we can't find work for you, bro. He said he's drunk. He's drunk.

SPEAKER_04

Oh man. That's funny.

SPEAKER_03

Um yeah, I don't know. It's just people are figuring out that Trump's messing with the straight horror moves, and he's, you know, the the US dollar's not worth anything, and that this is this whole Iran thing is to prop up the US dollar to make it seem like it's actually worth shit. And it's not, and people are figuring it out.

SPEAKER_04

It's about to be worth crap. This is the thing that I think is going on, is it's like you've got everybody running to buy that our oil now because that straits closed. Iran is dying. And it's great for the oil companies and it's great for like the redrawing of our map in the wrong in the long term, but people are getting killed right now right now financially. And so it's like, hey, look at aliens! Yeah, yeah. Trump is literally Woody pointing at something behind Buzz Lightyear right now. So we're supposed to go, where? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm I'm out, dude. I don't care at all. I just I don't want to pay $4 for gas anymore. I want to do my job and not have to worry about political people.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. That'd be great. They're not gonna let you do that. They're gonna say, there's aliens, there's a new COVID. I don't even look at stuff. Like, I learn more from you than I do from the internet. I don't know how that's possible. So like I I get on Facebook Marketplace to look for trucks, and then I get off of the internet. It's a very air you breathe, it's a poisonous fume. Yeah. So well, I do think we've probably kicked this thing down the road. I I do wonder, because it's like on the one hand, we'll keep trying to close this up and I have another thought.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Like, on the one hand, I'm like, people's propensity is to double down. So it's kind of like it's hard for me to imagine a great falling away because of aliens, just because when do people actually admit they're wrong or get that scared to be wrong anyway? You know, like ever. They don't. They don't. Yeah. And so it's like, I don't know what that great falling away is supposed to look like or what it would take. I mean, I believe it's gonna happen, but I don't think it's ever happens.

SPEAKER_03

Because like, as a conspiracy theorist, I've experienced what you're talking about. Yeah. So like you'll present an idea to someone, they call you an idiot for two years. Yeah. And then at the end of that two years, they figure out you're right. And they're like, I've been calling this guy an idiot for two years. Right? Yeah. And so they're like, obviously, I can't can't say he's not an idiot. Right. Yeah. Right. Because that that would be at the cost of their own ego. Right. So they have to just be like, well, yeah, I knew the whole time. I was just giving shit.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's how this plays out every single day.

SPEAKER_04

Well, they did that with the turn UFO. Yeah. Remember, it's like they they would they would see her die. They admit those rednecks are right. So they just changed it to me. I mean, what a load of crap.

SPEAKER_02

It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, it is. But yeah, so I'm like, on the one hand, I don't see people abandoning their faith because they're, you know. And what does the church abandoning their faith mean? Like they already have. Yeah, practically speaking. I I guess I'm thinking renounce Christ and you know go join a nudist colony or something. I mean nothing wrong with nudist colonies. I mean hedonism, so the boomers kind of. Oh, they boomed it up. Yeah. They kind of did that. Woodstock. Like walking away, like you think the great maybe the Great Falling Away already happened with the boomers, yeah. Ah. It was a bit of one. Yeah, I can see that. I can see that.

SPEAKER_02

And they all had kids and they started, you know, the karma started coming back and oh, we gotta start a church. Dude, you gotta influence the churches.

SPEAKER_04

It's like when you go to this town and there's more churches and people. Yeah. You think it's what was the moral majority?

SPEAKER_03

And the whole town's miserable.

SPEAKER_04

What do you mean by that? You think it was like like what the moral majority was, like then starting churches in the 80s or whatever because their kids are getting old and they're starting to freak out? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You got a bunch of if the whole country's a bunch of that would be too vile.

SPEAKER_03

A bunch of degenerates. Yeah, if the whole country's a bunch of degenerates, you know, like like you're gonna have that's how you get a revival, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. The back of the pinto back, yeah. Yeah, I I see what you mean. So maybe we've already had a fallen away, so we uh or maybe it's like a really shallow fate, so it's like they don't really believe that much to begin with. So if the aliens were real, then it's like everything is over, you know, because they didn't they weren't that super invested anyway. Yeah. Thank be it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I mean the the the harder you believe, think about it like extremism, undulations and extremism, the harder you believe, the I mean the more you're gonna dip, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So it's like like if you don't really believe in Jesus, it's like the more you say the claim, the more the devil makes you prove it, is what I'm trying to say. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_04

So maybe that could happen. I don't know. I just don't want it gonna affect my world, I think. Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't bother me at all. I don't care. Yeah. Alright, well, does Caleb's got anything else he's wanting to say? Or are we uh are we caught up on comments?

SPEAKER_02

Uh he said he's going. Oh, my wife said she's okay, gonna join a new discolony. That's interesting. Yeah. Have fun at that. Caleb, uh, be safe tonight, bro. Don't drinking is dangerous, all right? Are we driving around?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, that's everybody. I think we're ready to wrap it up. So appreciate y'all coming. Sorry for the sideways screen. Sorry you had to turn your phone to the side to see us. Apologies, we did our best. Are you waving? I wasn't sure what you were doing there. Oh, you're doing the Spock thing. Live Long and Prosper. Oh, live long and prosper. Like kind of a ghetto thing. All right. Ghetto Spock. It's gonna remind me. Anyway. Sorry, we're getting tired, so we need to shut this off. So, all right, guys, thank you so much for watching. We appreciate you. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_01

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